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Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:02 am
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By mandatory one person can not hold prime-minister (Head of Governments) position more than 2 terms even if his/her party in power. So that helps to grow new leadership among the party line. In long run it helps to young generation involving in the political system in the country and reduces monotony leadership from the party and also reduces influence of family dynasty.

Elected parliament members have freely applied his/her vote right on the bills/laws even against his or her party line if he feels that hamper interest of public. For that reason parliament membership can not lose his/her seat. Law gives that guaranty. (Now party member can not give vote against their party’s proposed bill even individual member feel bill is not right for public). Parliament is more effective arguments on making laws/bills.

Judicial & Election commission are free independent autonomous body and work independently. There are so many discussion on these issued to improve system. Political party who ever in the power only need sincerity.




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Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:55 pm
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Mumith wrote:
By mandatory one person can not hold prime-minister (Head of Governments) position more than 2 terms even if his/her party in power. So that helps to grow new leadership among the party line. In long run it helps to young generation involving in the political system in the country and reduces monotony leadership from the party and also reduces influence of family dynasty.

Elected parliament members have freely applied his/her vote right on the bills/laws even against his or her party line if he feels that hamper interest of public. For that reason parliament membership can not lose his/her seat. Law gives that guaranty. (Now party member can not give vote against their party’s proposed bill even individual member feel bill is not right for public). Parliament is more effective arguments on making laws/bills.

Judicial & Election commission are free independent autonomous body and work independently. There are so many discussion on these issued to improve system. Political party who ever in the power only need sincerity.


You are right that if one person can hold prime minister position how many times he/she wants than an autocratic attitude comes into him/her. Therefore every lower ranked leader of a political party starts to maintain oiling him/her. This make clouded their intelligence and eventually it hampers their leadership quality. It also reduce the accountability of a prime minister as he/or she knows that very well that whatever things happen, wrong or right he/she will be again the prime minister. I agree with you that it is really a big barrier in the political leadership pipeline.

You have also touched another most important obstacle in our political system that is article 70. As per article 70 it says ‘A person elected as a member of Parliament at an election at which he was nominated as a candidate by a political party shall vacate his seat if he resigns from that party or votes in Parliament against the party.’ It is most undemocratic rule in our constitution. In a program of BBC dialogue this issue was arisen. We must have to think about this. Rolling Eyes




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Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:37 pm
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countryman wrote:
Mumith wrote:
By mandatory one person can not hold prime-minister (Head of Governments) position more than 2 terms even if his/her party in power. So that helps to grow new leadership among the party line. In long run it helps to young generation involving in the political system in the country and reduces monotony leadership from the party and also reduces influence of family dynasty.

Elected parliament members have freely applied his/her vote right on the bills/laws even against his or her party line if he feels that hamper interest of public. For that reason parliament membership can not lose his/her seat. Law gives that guaranty. (Now party member can not give vote against their party’s proposed bill even individual member feel bill is not right for public). Parliament is more effective arguments on making laws/bills.

Judicial & Election commission are free independent autonomous body and work independently. There are so many discussion on these issued to improve system. Political party who ever in the power only need sincerity.


You are right that if one person can hold prime minister position how many times he/she wants than an autocratic attitude comes into him/her. Therefore every lower ranked leader of a political party starts to maintain oiling him/her. This make clouded their intelligence and eventually it hampers their leadership quality. It also reduce the accountability of a prime minister as he/or she knows that very well that whatever things happen, wrong or right he/she will be again the prime minister. I agree with you that it is really a big barrier in the political leadership pipeline.

You have also touched another most important obstacle in our political system that is article 70. As per article 70 it says ‘A person elected as a member of Parliament at an election at which he was nominated as a candidate by a political party shall vacate his seat if he resigns from that party or votes in Parliament against the party.’ It is most undemocratic rule in our constitution. In a program of BBC dialogue this issue was arisen. We must have to think about this. Rolling Eyes


Dear mumith and countryman,
Tell me a person name who can be replacement of Sheikh Hasina and Khaleda Jia? Have you forgotten that once Dr. Kamal hossain was president of Awami league and what was the party situation than? There was no control over the party and chain of command was totally broken. So right now we have no alternative of Hasina and Khaleda Shocked




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Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:40 am
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Dear Badthinker,
No leader/person is indispensable. Great leader gone and new leader grow in the democratize process. Leader like Bangabandu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and Gen. Zia gone and new leader grow (not in proper process therefore result is not satisfactory). Anyway, Dr. Kamal Hussian was never president of Awami league. He was presidium committee member of Awami League. If democratize process creates in the party than we will see how leadership grow among the party line. And also see the quality of leadership automatically improve to survive in the politic. Now politician are not accountable to public. Their only job how to please party leader and gets his/her blessing to become politician. Therefore we can not expect a good quality of leadership in the party line unless basis change to electing party leader in all level by the members vote. If one party starts the process other will follow to survive in the political process. So call leader will vanish from the party while brilliant, honest capable person will occupy the leadership in the party. We will see the change in political picture and quality of leader in Bangladesh. It also creates attractive field to join in the politic as career by bright and talent honest young citizen and become statesman/leader, policy maker of Bangladesh. People respect their leader.
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Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:09 pm
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Dear Friends,

As all of you I also need changes in our political system.

I have written my proposal in an article published in a national daily few month ago. You are cordially invited to read it from my persola web site at : http://www.geocities.com/nhasanbd/mfgg.pdf

Your comments on my proposal are most welcome.

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Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:19 pm
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nhasan wrote:
Dear Friends,

As all of you I also need changes in our political system.

I have written my proposal in an article published in a national daily few month ago. You are cordially invited to read it from my persola web site at : http://www.geocities.com/nhasanbd/mfgg.pdf

Your comments on my proposal are most welcome.

Thanks


Dear nhasan,

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Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:01 pm
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One more basis change I should add that Parliament could be 4 years instead of 5 years to original posting. I am only emphasizing on the very basis change that could easily change without much difficulty. However I believe that change could greater effect in the politic of Bangladesh. However, there are very valuable suggestions; reformations for EC, CT, Judicial system, structure of govt. voting process are available.
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:01 am
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Good points Mr. Mumith. But the thing is we are used to the old-style leadership where a family brings its members as big leaders. But we have to change that style. As a result, we will see politicians more active and honest to get themselves popular so they can be the top leaders that eventually will help them get positions in politics. Today Tarique Rahman is doing corruptions, but none of the partymen could come against him to protest staying inside the party. The reason behind this strength is family. If he were not son of Khaleda Zia, he never could get such bad-power-fuel. So we need to change this by birth leadership.

Please suggest more on how can we move forward to turn off this obsolete leadership.

Thanks and regards.




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Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:46 am
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I agreed with you Mr. Razzaque. That is why one suggestion if we limit by law that a person can hold position not more than 2 terms as head of governments. That individual influence on the party will reduce gradually as result there is less opportunity to bring family members as big leader unless that family member is really good and capable to survive in politic.
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:23 am
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Dear Mr. Razzaque,
Our great leader Dr. Kamal Hossain has introduced to bring family member into politic as big leader and President Satter follows his path to bring MS. Khaleda Zia into politic. So unique political process has begun and all credit goes to great national leader Dr. Hossain.
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Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:28 am
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AL is people party and people love it. If you keep your family legacy you should have reform your party before you leave. People will remember you for ever and AL party will live for ever in people of Bangladesh. Do not worry about party leadership; leadership will grow under the system. First of all you have change the party’s constitutions that party chief can not hold both position as head of government (PM) and Party chief simultaneously. Either he/she has to leave Prime Minister Ship or from party Chief. New party chief will elect by member’s secrete ballot vote. Strictly follow the rules. Other mejor party will follw the lead for thier survival in the politic.
Secondly, one person can not hold prime Minister Position more than two terms.




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